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	<title>Comments on: Garage Trailer Lift</title>
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		<title>By: Alan Lilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 20:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Originally I was going to do a manual crank on my wall, but the electric hoist was so cheap and the engineering and effort is the same with either manual or electric.  Wall or ceiling ... you need to span a board across multiple studs or joists to spread the load.  The other advantage to ceiling is the entire system is invisible.  A manual crank takes a surprisingly long time to crank because you have to turn it a bunch of times to lift from the floor to the ceiling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Originally I was going to do a manual crank on my wall, but the electric hoist was so cheap and the engineering and effort is the same with either manual or electric.  Wall or ceiling &#8230; you need to span a board across multiple studs or joists to spread the load.  The other advantage to ceiling is the entire system is invisible.  A manual crank takes a surprisingly long time to crank because you have to turn it a bunch of times to lift from the floor to the ceiling.</p>
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		<title>By: Brady</title>
		<link>http://panofish.net/garage-trailer-lift/comment-page-2/#comment-15679</link>
		<dc:creator>Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 19:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alan,

I am thinking of copying your nice design, except I&#039;m considering using a manual hoist. What made you decide to go with a motorized hoist instead (besides convenience)? I&#039;m thinking it might be a little tricky to sturdily mount the manual hoist to the wall. I suppose I could lag a large eye into the concrete floor and attach the hoist there, but then I&#039;d lose the floor space and mobility in that area...

Cheers,
Brady</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alan,</p>
<p>I am thinking of copying your nice design, except I&#8217;m considering using a manual hoist. What made you decide to go with a motorized hoist instead (besides convenience)? I&#8217;m thinking it might be a little tricky to sturdily mount the manual hoist to the wall. I suppose I could lag a large eye into the concrete floor and attach the hoist there, but then I&#8217;d lose the floor space and mobility in that area&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Brady</p>
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		<title>By: pvc panel</title>
		<link>http://panofish.net/garage-trailer-lift/comment-page-2/#comment-15669</link>
		<dc:creator>pvc panel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 12:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this web site offers quality depending content and additional information, is there any 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this web site offers quality depending content and additional information, is there any<br />
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		<title>By: Alan Lilly</title>
		<link>http://panofish.net/garage-trailer-lift/comment-page-2/#comment-15653</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 23:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks... the trailer is mostly aluminum from rance aluminum trailers http://www.rancealuminum.com/
I don&#039;t think they make this model any more, but I love mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks&#8230; the trailer is mostly aluminum from rance aluminum trailers <a href="http://www.rancealuminum.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.rancealuminum.com/</a><br />
I don&#8217;t think they make this model any more, but I love mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Dusty</title>
		<link>http://panofish.net/garage-trailer-lift/comment-page-2/#comment-15652</link>
		<dc:creator>Dusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 22:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job with the lift.  I made a trip to Harbor Freight and Lowe&#039;s today to gather the required materials to build my own.  Thanks so much for the pictures and instructions.  What brand of trailer is that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job with the lift.  I made a trip to Harbor Freight and Lowe&#8217;s today to gather the required materials to build my own.  Thanks so much for the pictures and instructions.  What brand of trailer is that?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Lilly</title>
		<link>http://panofish.net/garage-trailer-lift/comment-page-2/#comment-15633</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little off should be fine... more will increase stress when fully lifted, because the line will start pulling horizontally and not just vertically.  I would still prefer to have the lines perfectly vertical though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little off should be fine&#8230; more will increase stress when fully lifted, because the line will start pulling horizontally and not just vertically.  I would still prefer to have the lines perfectly vertical though.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://panofish.net/garage-trailer-lift/comment-page-2/#comment-15632</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep, i don&#039;t ever see more than 300 lbs being lifted, also do the pulleys need to be directly above the lifting wire connections?  If they are off to the side a little,  does that add unneeded stress on the cbales and pulleys?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep, i don&#8217;t ever see more than 300 lbs being lifted, also do the pulleys need to be directly above the lifting wire connections?  If they are off to the side a little,  does that add unneeded stress on the cbales and pulleys?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Lilly</title>
		<link>http://panofish.net/garage-trailer-lift/comment-page-2/#comment-15630</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 15:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Joe.  I would lag bolt some horizontal boards across the studs to distribute weight.  I did the same above ceiling, but I didn&#039;t have to lag bolt to every stud since the weight would natrually distribute by just laying on top.  Make sure you calculate the load on each ceiling bolt point.. it should be evenly distributed across all studs.  The dry wall shouldnt be an issue, except making sure your lag bolts are well centered in the ceiling joists.  Also I would pay attention to the size of lag bolt and depth into the joists.  If the joists are 2x4 boards and the lag bolts are large and go deep into the board, you would effectively be weakening the 2x4 and the static load might be too much.  But if your load is light enough all of this thinking might be overkill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Joe.  I would lag bolt some horizontal boards across the studs to distribute weight.  I did the same above ceiling, but I didn&#8217;t have to lag bolt to every stud since the weight would natrually distribute by just laying on top.  Make sure you calculate the load on each ceiling bolt point.. it should be evenly distributed across all studs.  The dry wall shouldnt be an issue, except making sure your lag bolts are well centered in the ceiling joists.  Also I would pay attention to the size of lag bolt and depth into the joists.  If the joists are 2&#215;4 boards and the lag bolts are large and go deep into the board, you would effectively be weakening the 2&#215;4 and the static load might be too much.  But if your load is light enough all of this thinking might be overkill.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any issues with securing the pulleys &amp; winch to the ceiling through the 3/4 inch drywall before getting to the studs?  I&#039;m worried about the 3/4 inch drywall gap to the studs...Should I just install cross-mount support boards to the ceiling and then mount the pulleys and winch to it? I have 12 inches of spray insulation in the garage attic so I&#039;ll have to install it on the ceiling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any issues with securing the pulleys &amp; winch to the ceiling through the 3/4 inch drywall before getting to the studs?  I&#8217;m worried about the 3/4 inch drywall gap to the studs&#8230;Should I just install cross-mount support boards to the ceiling and then mount the pulleys and winch to it? I have 12 inches of spray insulation in the garage attic so I&#8217;ll have to install it on the ceiling.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Lilly</title>
		<link>http://panofish.net/garage-trailer-lift/comment-page-2/#comment-15591</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 19:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoists are for lifting and winches are for pulling.  A 1500lb capacity winch might only be able to lift 100lbs and hold it under static load, but I&#039;d get a hoist for lifting stuff over my head in the garage.  Thanks for the question... I&#039;ve updated the post to clarify the differences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoists are for lifting and winches are for pulling.  A 1500lb capacity winch might only be able to lift 100lbs and hold it under static load, but I&#8217;d get a hoist for lifting stuff over my head in the garage.  Thanks for the question&#8230; I&#8217;ve updated the post to clarify the differences.</p>
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